Batting Training Tips By The Experts!!by Abhishek Kaushal (The Northern Thunder) 42 months ago TrainingNewbie
Well, there were not much threads about batting training and managers had plenty of questions about batting training in their mind, especially newbies. So I decided why not give a try to solve their queries.
But worried that a post has meen made by a brown manager of division 6? No worries! I HAVE the experience of batting training of 6 months but still, those various questions which newbies and some lazy experienced managers have in their mind, will not be answered by me.
But if not I, then who is going to solve their queries? Well, the answer is very simple. We have some BATTING TRAINING EXPERTS with us who will be answering all our questions throughout this post.
It was a great fun talking with the experts and I am sure that the answers which they gave will surely help the batting trainers.
And now - About this post!
After visiting many forums, I made a list of 10 questions which are GENERALLY ASKED BY BATTING TRAINERS. And then, those 10 questions were answered very clearly and briefly by our 3 experts. It was just like an interview with the experts about their experience in batting training, you can say.
Well, excited to know who are those experts? Here they are...
1.) Sir Blank -> Manager of "DesiGnated Drinkerzz", which is currently in Division II. Blank is the assisstant coach of Chattisgarh state team and his team ranks as the 2nd most powerful batting lineup in Hitwicket.
2.) Sir Sunil Sahoo -> Manager of "Kalinga Rangers", which is currently in Division II. Sunil Sahoo is the head coach of Odisha state team and his team ranks as the 4th most powerful batting lineup in Hitwicket.
3.) Sir Sayak Ganguly -> Manager of "Warriors of Bengal", which is currently in Division III. Sayak Ganguly is the head coach of Bengal state team and his team ranks as the 12th most powerful batting lineup in Hitwicket.
So these are the experts who will guide us throughout this post..
(For Newbies) First of all have a look to the game manual..
Only players who bat at positions #1, #3 and #5 in the batting order of a match will get training.
All six players who play at positions #1 , #3 and #5 in the 2 weekly matches will get training for the week. However if players 'A','B' and 'C' play both matches at positions #1, #3 & #5, they still receive only a week's worth of training, NOT MORE. Therefore it is optimal to play different players in both matches, to make sure 6 of your players get trained.
Training is based purely on match orders, so even if a batsman does not get a chance to bat during the match, he receives training as long as he's scheduled to bat at position #1, #3 or #5.
Time to start off with the questions..
As I said - 10 questions - Answered by the experienced batting trainers..
1.) What should be the age and skills of a batting trainee while buying him?
Blank -> I would say, if you have hell lot of money and want real monsters after few seasons then you should go for 17.30 yrs or below reliable/reliable players. Otherwise, just start training anyone below 20 which has skills at least avg/avg.
We can always sell these players after 1-2 seasons and buy much younger trainees.
Sunil Sahoo -> Below 17/30, Acc/Rel or Rel/Acc even rel/rel 17/10 is great. Price depends on the market , i mean supply/demand & U20 cup time.
Sayak Ganguly ->Its not possible for a newbie to buy awesome trainees like acc/acc or rel/rel of 17 yrs. well, there is no limitation of good the best trainee that u can get luckily in the market is 17.0 yrs acc/acc. bt that is almost impossible. bt what do i prefer at least avg/avg of 17.20 or less. or rel/rel of 17.40 or less.
Ishan -> Try buying below 18 yrs batsman(atleast Rel/rel).. I know its tough for new teams to outbid established teams. So for this you can follow a cycle of training and selling.... Buy avg/avg batsmen of 17... you can get them easily for under 2M.... Train them for 2 seasons and then sell them off to make money and then start your proper training plan.
Most important aspect about any training is Age. When you select your 6 Trainees, try going for almost equal aged trainees. eg All 6 should be around 17-18 at the start of their training. This would help you a lot when you will shift from batting to bowling training.
2.) How much time does it take for pop ups in different skills in batting training?
Blank -> Batting training literally tests your patience level as pops will be much slower. I never really maintained a record book, so can tell you exact number of weeks. But roughly it takes 4-5 weeks from Reliable to accomplished, around 6 week from accomplished to Brilliant for each pop and around 8-9 weeks up to masterful.
Sunil Sahoo -> Avg-Rel 3/4 weeks, Rel-Acc-Rem-Bri 5/6 weeks Bri-Exe-Pro 6/7 weeks. with batting training ( not batting seam or batting spin).
Sayak Ganguly -> considering a trainee of 17.20 avg/avg
avg/avg to rel/rel 3 weeks
rel/rel to acc/acc 4 weeks
acc/acc to rem/rem 5 weeks
rem/rem to brill/brill 6 weeks
brill/brill to exem/exem 6 weeks
exem/exem to prod/prod 7 weeks
prod/prod to fan/fan 7 weeks
fan/fan to magni/magni 8 weeks
magni/magni to master/master 9 weeks
thats batting only record
batting only = 50% batting seam + 50% batting spin
batting seam = 2/3 batting seam + 1/3 batting spin
that is 66.66% batting seam + 33.33% batting spin
so anyone can calculate if 50% takes 4 weeks then how much week can take 66.66%
Ishan -> Avg-Rel = 3-4 weeks
3.) Batting or batting spin/ seam - Which training you prefer?
Blank -> It doesn't really matter if you choose batting spin first or batting seam first because ultimately we need a batsman who is good in both skills. Personally I prefer to go with BATTING only because it is hassle free. I never had to stress my head about when to switch to other skill.
Sunil Sahoo -> Suppose you have a crumbling pitch ( you have 5 28+ aged spinner), you go for batting training. My way: go for 17/30 Acco/Rel batsmen( rel in spin batting). go for 2 seasons of batting spin only, so by the time the batsmen are 19/30, they will be Bri+/Exe+
Then shift to usual batting for next 3/4 seasons till you switch to bowling . the advantage here is your batsmen will improve faster in spin batting, thereby giving advantage in home matches. Also with batting seam at accomplished level, the gap between batting seam & batting spin will not be more at end of 1st 2 seasons of batting spin only training.
Sayak Ganguly -> I mostly preferred batting only
bcoz i prefer balanced skills
if u give a player training in only batting seam or spin, his spin or seam skill will increase more....
suppose you train a player A in batting seam for 1 season
so his skill in batting seam will increase more.
now when u'll give him training in batting spin, he will be older and his increase ratio will decrese
so his skill in seam batting will increase faster than spin when u will switch from seam to spin
DazedNConfused -> "I personally think Batting training is only good till your players reach mid/late blue levels in both Batting Seam and Spin. Once they are around Remarkable or Brilliant I would personally advise Batting Trainers to switch to either Batting Seam or Batting Spin training.Reasons:
You know the pitch you have !
You know the league you are in !
Think ! Analyze ! If it is Spin dominated then choose Batting Spin and same goes for Seam dominated leagues. You would get faster POPs and your batsman would start scoring runs very soon winning you matches.
As they say 'Horses for all courses' ...so train you batsmen in both skills.
Scotch -> Your batsmen should be good at both the skills. Not only in spin or seam. Unless there is a huge imbalance, stick to batting training. It generally takes 6-8 weeks for a batsmen to pop at high skill levels. I have currently Prod/Exemplary batsmen but they dont stand a chance against skillful bowling line ups like Kashyap/RIsky Jats etc. If you really want to sustain in top leagues, dont worry about the time taken and make your batsmen atleast 18K [Prod ++]. There is no point in having Brilliant basmen and changing your training mid-way for bowling as once you are done with batting training you are expected to have 6 solid batsmen and not worry for atleast 6-7 seasons.
4.) What are the benefits of a left-right batting combination? How much does it effects the bowler?
Blank -> Left-Right combination is something which must be followed religiously because It reduces the bowler's capability by almost 1 star whenever strike changes.
Sunil Sahoo -> Each time the batsmen change the crease, it lowers the star rating of the bowler by 0.5 star, but it is for only 1 ball.
Sayak Ganguly -> it effects by 10% of a bowler
if the bowler gives 10 star, he will start giving 9 stars
bt it stays for only 1 ball
Ishan -> As you can train 6 Batsmen, so try selecting 3 left handed and 3 right handed trainees... If you would have read the game manual, Left-Right Combo at the crease decreases the bowling ability of a bowler... Its just for 1 bowl but still if batsmen take singles every bowl then the bowler wont be able to bowl at the best of his ability.
7.) Till what skills should we train our batsmen so that they are ready to face the deadly bowlers of the game?
Blank -> This question is too tricky to answer. It is relative to bowler's skills. Since, we got many deadly bowlers around now, so one should aim for at least mag/mag batsman.But the way killer dollies is going, looks like we would need legendary/legendary batsman soon.
Updated at: 11-03-2014
Arun Sabarirajan (ASR XI)
Abhishek Kaushal (The Northern Thunder)
Sir Lt_Aldo_Raine (Inglourious Basterds)
Sir AJRaptor (Warsong Warlords')
Ishan (Delhi Dynamos)